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		<title>By: viking3456</title>
		<link>http://www.ncaa.org/blog/2010/12/on-consistency/#comment-65</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 08:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I was growing up my father always told me that perception is often more important than reality and that if I appeared to do some that was unethical or illegal then I would be perceived to be that kind of a person.  The reality is that the perception of the NCAA is that it IS inconsistent and that big money drives that inconsistency.  This past year the Southern Cal decision positioned against Scam Newton, the tattooed five from O$U and to a lesser degree the Jeremiah Masoli decision that helped another $EC school (Mississippi) has greatly added to that perception.

Out here in the real world I have not talked with one person who views the NCAA as an honorable, consistent and credible entity.  I believe, personally, that your reputation is so damaged that the NCAA can never recover.  In short, y&#039;all are in big trouble and you don&#039;t have a clue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was growing up my father always told me that perception is often more important than reality and that if I appeared to do some that was unethical or illegal then I would be perceived to be that kind of a person.  The reality is that the perception of the NCAA is that it IS inconsistent and that big money drives that inconsistency.  This past year the Southern Cal decision positioned against Scam Newton, the tattooed five from O$U and to a lesser degree the Jeremiah Masoli decision that helped another $EC school (Mississippi) has greatly added to that perception.</p>
<p>Out here in the real world I have not talked with one person who views the NCAA as an honorable, consistent and credible entity.  I believe, personally, that your reputation is so damaged that the NCAA can never recover.  In short, y&#8217;all are in big trouble and you don&#8217;t have a clue.</p>
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		<title>By: columbusohmm</title>
		<link>http://www.ncaa.org/blog/2010/12/on-consistency/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>columbusohmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 04:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pulease consistency? It is sad that a coach--an adult only gets suspended for 8 games for violating NCAA rules and asks players to lie for him, 5 OSU football players get to play in a bowl game but suspended 5 games next year, and the Auburn ?Cam Newton aka Heisman trophy winner gets zero penalty. He gets to play in the bowl game and keep his Trophy. I see a double standard being played. Really this 18yo ballplayer cannot play ever in college. I am glad the NCAA was fair. They need to re-evaluate their standards and uphold them for all not just when they see fit. We wouldn&#039;t want to tarnish the Heisman trophy or cause schools, advertisers or Organizations to lose money because Cam Newton doesn&#039;t play in the bowl nor the OSU players not play against Ark. The NCAA needs to be re-evaluated. I need to add the inconsistency in the refs during the KY vs GA game in the SEC opener. It seem to be one-sided.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pulease consistency? It is sad that a coach&#8211;an adult only gets suspended for 8 games for violating NCAA rules and asks players to lie for him, 5 OSU football players get to play in a bowl game but suspended 5 games next year, and the Auburn ?Cam Newton aka Heisman trophy winner gets zero penalty. He gets to play in the bowl game and keep his Trophy. I see a double standard being played. Really this 18yo ballplayer cannot play ever in college. I am glad the NCAA was fair. They need to re-evaluate their standards and uphold them for all not just when they see fit. We wouldn&#8217;t want to tarnish the Heisman trophy or cause schools, advertisers or Organizations to lose money because Cam Newton doesn&#8217;t play in the bowl nor the OSU players not play against Ark. The NCAA needs to be re-evaluated. I need to add the inconsistency in the refs during the KY vs GA game in the SEC opener. It seem to be one-sided.</p>
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		<title>By: BUCKEYEinFL</title>
		<link>http://www.ncaa.org/blog/2010/12/on-consistency/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>BUCKEYEinFL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 06:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think people have a right to be a little upset over the way the NCAA handles things.  You have a done a nice job attempting to defend the NCAA, but when Brandon Spikes attempting to gouge the eyes of a defenseless player whom is wrapped up as he lies on the ground, and this gets a 1/2 game suspension, but selling one&#039;s own property gets a 4 or 5 game suspension.

yes I get that if not punished, selling these things opens the door to worse, but appropriate punishment is not suspensions.  Think about this for a minute.  What if the 5 players suspended were the entire offensive line?  What if you are going into a big game and your QB who has a promising future in the NFL, gets blindsided because he has an inept line blocking for him.  So he suffers a career ending injury because some kids sold THEIR OWN PROPERTY.

I&#039;m sick of the NCAA rushing to suspensions when other punishments might be more appropriate.  For instance, when you can establish what an item was sold for, why not fine the player the amount the item cost the university, plus the amount the item was sold for, plus an additional fine on top?  This can be collected after the student graduates.

A year of eligibility can be taken away.

Scholarships can be removed for years already received.  In other words, make the player pay back money for a year of education they received.

Boosters caught could be banned from NCAA events.  In other words, they can&#039;t go to the games.


The thing here is that suspending players hurts not only that player, but everybody else as well, especially the other, innocent players.  Bowl game suspensions are the worst.  The NCAA should do something about that right now.  Create a rule that states suspension, except for the most egregious violations, will not take place during bowl games.  Egregious being defined as things that actually break the law.  How would you feel as a fan to buy tickets, pay for airline tickets, make reservations, etc. for a bowl game, then find out your team, or the other team now has some of it&#039;s key players suspended.  Now you aren&#039;t getting what you paid for, since what you paid for was seeing your favorite team play it&#039;s best game against an opponent playing it&#039;s best game.  I&#039;m not talking about the lawyer&#039;s definition of what you actually paid for.  I&#039;m talking about what a fan expects when they pay their hard earned cash for it.  They certainly aren&#039;t expecting to see a game between two teams, one of which is depleted by suspensions.

Of course, there can be a bright spot to this.  I have a friend who was spared the agony of seeing the beat down his MSU Spartans took at the hands of Bama.  He refused to pay to go see that game because he had to witness too many bowls where his team was depleted by suspensions, and he wasn&#039;t going to do it again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think people have a right to be a little upset over the way the NCAA handles things.  You have a done a nice job attempting to defend the NCAA, but when Brandon Spikes attempting to gouge the eyes of a defenseless player whom is wrapped up as he lies on the ground, and this gets a 1/2 game suspension, but selling one&#8217;s own property gets a 4 or 5 game suspension.</p>
<p>yes I get that if not punished, selling these things opens the door to worse, but appropriate punishment is not suspensions.  Think about this for a minute.  What if the 5 players suspended were the entire offensive line?  What if you are going into a big game and your QB who has a promising future in the NFL, gets blindsided because he has an inept line blocking for him.  So he suffers a career ending injury because some kids sold THEIR OWN PROPERTY.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sick of the NCAA rushing to suspensions when other punishments might be more appropriate.  For instance, when you can establish what an item was sold for, why not fine the player the amount the item cost the university, plus the amount the item was sold for, plus an additional fine on top?  This can be collected after the student graduates.</p>
<p>A year of eligibility can be taken away.</p>
<p>Scholarships can be removed for years already received.  In other words, make the player pay back money for a year of education they received.</p>
<p>Boosters caught could be banned from NCAA events.  In other words, they can&#8217;t go to the games.</p>
<p>The thing here is that suspending players hurts not only that player, but everybody else as well, especially the other, innocent players.  Bowl game suspensions are the worst.  The NCAA should do something about that right now.  Create a rule that states suspension, except for the most egregious violations, will not take place during bowl games.  Egregious being defined as things that actually break the law.  How would you feel as a fan to buy tickets, pay for airline tickets, make reservations, etc. for a bowl game, then find out your team, or the other team now has some of it&#8217;s key players suspended.  Now you aren&#8217;t getting what you paid for, since what you paid for was seeing your favorite team play it&#8217;s best game against an opponent playing it&#8217;s best game.  I&#8217;m not talking about the lawyer&#8217;s definition of what you actually paid for.  I&#8217;m talking about what a fan expects when they pay their hard earned cash for it.  They certainly aren&#8217;t expecting to see a game between two teams, one of which is depleted by suspensions.</p>
<p>Of course, there can be a bright spot to this.  I have a friend who was spared the agony of seeing the beat down his MSU Spartans took at the hands of Bama.  He refused to pay to go see that game because he had to witness too many bowls where his team was depleted by suspensions, and he wasn&#8217;t going to do it again.</p>
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		<title>By: choskins</title>
		<link>http://www.ncaa.org/blog/2010/12/on-consistency/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>choskins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 01:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Uhhh in regards to the selby - kanter decision this is the inconsistancy....as you mentioned the cases are similar, very similar with the results contrasting from few game suspension to being perminantly ineligible.  HUGE difference in results.  Every case will be differenent, but the resulting enforcement should still remain consistant.  The ncaa should be dissolved and another organization developed...one that supports a football playoff system.  My kids could manage this with more fairness.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uhhh in regards to the selby &#8211; kanter decision this is the inconsistancy&#8230;.as you mentioned the cases are similar, very similar with the results contrasting from few game suspension to being perminantly ineligible.  HUGE difference in results.  Every case will be differenent, but the resulting enforcement should still remain consistant.  The ncaa should be dissolved and another organization developed&#8230;one that supports a football playoff system.  My kids could manage this with more fairness.</p>
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		<title>By: Headbanger215</title>
		<link>http://www.ncaa.org/blog/2010/12/on-consistency/#comment-61</link>
		<dc:creator>Headbanger215</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jan 2011 21:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When has a student-athlete ever been allowed to play in a bowl game or NCAA tournament before this? When has punishment ever been deferred before this? The illegal benefit was in 2009, but there are no penalties at all for the 2010 season? No vacating games, nothing? 

The idea of the NCAA accepting the explanation of &quot;we didn&#039;t know the rules&quot; is ludicrous. The recent statement from the NCAA says:

&quot;In relation to the decision last week involving rules violations with football student-athletes at Ohio State, several current student-athletes were interviewed as part of our fact-gathering process. They indicated they were not aware there was a violation and learned of the issue based on later rules education, which was confirmed by OSU through interviews and supporting documentation.&quot;

This is contradicted by statements from Ohio State players, including Terrelle Pryor himself! &quot;I already knew what I shouldn’t have done back two years ago.&quot; Plus, anybody familiar with college football saw Georgia WR AJ Green get suspended by the NCAA at the beginning of the season for selling his jersey.

This is why the public has had such an adverse reaction to the NCAA ruling. Dan Wetzel&#039;s column on the situation is informative:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news;_ylt=AseMPzU2Pd_e1oM0blNNS0ocvrYF?slug=dw-pryor010311]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When has a student-athlete ever been allowed to play in a bowl game or NCAA tournament before this? When has punishment ever been deferred before this? The illegal benefit was in 2009, but there are no penalties at all for the 2010 season? No vacating games, nothing? </p>
<p>The idea of the NCAA accepting the explanation of &#8220;we didn&#8217;t know the rules&#8221; is ludicrous. The recent statement from the NCAA says:</p>
<p>&#8220;In relation to the decision last week involving rules violations with football student-athletes at Ohio State, several current student-athletes were interviewed as part of our fact-gathering process. They indicated they were not aware there was a violation and learned of the issue based on later rules education, which was confirmed by OSU through interviews and supporting documentation.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is contradicted by statements from Ohio State players, including Terrelle Pryor himself! &#8220;I already knew what I shouldn’t have done back two years ago.&#8221; Plus, anybody familiar with college football saw Georgia WR AJ Green get suspended by the NCAA at the beginning of the season for selling his jersey.</p>
<p>This is why the public has had such an adverse reaction to the NCAA ruling. Dan Wetzel&#8217;s column on the situation is informative:</p>
<p><a href="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news;_ylt=AseMPzU2Pd_e1oM0blNNS0ocvrYF?slug=dw-pryor010311" rel="nofollow">http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news;_ylt=AseMPzU2Pd_e1oM0blNNS0ocvrYF?slug=dw-pryor010311</a></p>
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		<title>By: cabby163</title>
		<link>http://www.ncaa.org/blog/2010/12/on-consistency/#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>cabby163</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jan 2011 06:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The NCAA does what is best for the bottom line, consistently.  Having Auburn and Ohio State at full strength makes bowl sponsors happy and earns ESPN higher ratings which makes the NCAA more money.  Likewise, having Kansas win games is good for ratings and earns the NCAA more money.  The one exception with Kanter seems noble yet he signed a contract with a professional team; the NCAA would open the flood gates to European professional players if they didn&#039;t rule him ineligible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NCAA does what is best for the bottom line, consistently.  Having Auburn and Ohio State at full strength makes bowl sponsors happy and earns ESPN higher ratings which makes the NCAA more money.  Likewise, having Kansas win games is good for ratings and earns the NCAA more money.  The one exception with Kanter seems noble yet he signed a contract with a professional team; the NCAA would open the flood gates to European professional players if they didn&#8217;t rule him ineligible.</p>
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		<title>By: m1sk12</title>
		<link>http://www.ncaa.org/blog/2010/12/on-consistency/#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator>m1sk12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 23:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At the end of the day, the most important issue should be &quot;Are we considering the student athlete&#039;s best interest, all the while doing so in a rational and logical manner?,&quot; rather than &quot;Are we consistently applying our (often times archaic) rules?&quot; Intent should thus play a very large role in that.

Take the Enes Kanter situation you mentioned; he took expenses you deemed &quot;excessive,&quot; yet his intent was clearly to remain an amateur. He did not, at any point, intend to violate any of the NCAA&#039;s &quot;rules&quot; it set out. Yet, those who did have such intentions (Cam Newton&#039;s father, the Ohio State team and maybe even Selby), receive a punishment far less than that of Kanter. 

The NCAA&#039;s decision is clearly not in the kid&#039;s best interest because it had led him into a false sense of hope by dragging out the process. By doing so, it cost his family millions of dollars (turning down the Turkish national team), all the while killing a child&#039;s dream of suiting up and representing a higher institution of learning on the basketball court in the process. And might I ask, all over what? Some goofy and clearly archaic rule that states that a player can&#039;t receive money for educational expenses? How petty! 

The NCAA&#039;s decision was further illogical because it failed to take into consideration anything but the letter of the rules. Fairness and logic should prevail over what it deems as &quot;consistent&quot; solely according to the rules. Rules should be in place to guide a process, not to define the process. Just because they feel justified in saying they are staying in accordance with their own rules, doesn&#039;t mean that they are being consistent. Its blatantly obvious to anyone who subjectively looks at this situation (without taking into consideration by-laws put in place originally for situations with little to no relevance to Kanter&#039;s) that there is an element of hypocrisy in the rules in place. That is what is not consistent.

The NCAA needs to worry less about its own rules (as nearly anybody outside of its committee would agree they are flawed) and more about what is reasonable (which is a much more intellectually honest way of looking at a situation; something a body representing universities should understand). Common sense should rule the day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the end of the day, the most important issue should be &#8220;Are we considering the student athlete&#8217;s best interest, all the while doing so in a rational and logical manner?,&#8221; rather than &#8220;Are we consistently applying our (often times archaic) rules?&#8221; Intent should thus play a very large role in that.</p>
<p>Take the Enes Kanter situation you mentioned; he took expenses you deemed &#8220;excessive,&#8221; yet his intent was clearly to remain an amateur. He did not, at any point, intend to violate any of the NCAA&#8217;s &#8220;rules&#8221; it set out. Yet, those who did have such intentions (Cam Newton&#8217;s father, the Ohio State team and maybe even Selby), receive a punishment far less than that of Kanter. </p>
<p>The NCAA&#8217;s decision is clearly not in the kid&#8217;s best interest because it had led him into a false sense of hope by dragging out the process. By doing so, it cost his family millions of dollars (turning down the Turkish national team), all the while killing a child&#8217;s dream of suiting up and representing a higher institution of learning on the basketball court in the process. And might I ask, all over what? Some goofy and clearly archaic rule that states that a player can&#8217;t receive money for educational expenses? How petty! </p>
<p>The NCAA&#8217;s decision was further illogical because it failed to take into consideration anything but the letter of the rules. Fairness and logic should prevail over what it deems as &#8220;consistent&#8221; solely according to the rules. Rules should be in place to guide a process, not to define the process. Just because they feel justified in saying they are staying in accordance with their own rules, doesn&#8217;t mean that they are being consistent. Its blatantly obvious to anyone who subjectively looks at this situation (without taking into consideration by-laws put in place originally for situations with little to no relevance to Kanter&#8217;s) that there is an element of hypocrisy in the rules in place. That is what is not consistent.</p>
<p>The NCAA needs to worry less about its own rules (as nearly anybody outside of its committee would agree they are flawed) and more about what is reasonable (which is a much more intellectually honest way of looking at a situation; something a body representing universities should understand). Common sense should rule the day.</p>
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		<title>By: griz23</title>
		<link>http://www.ncaa.org/blog/2010/12/on-consistency/#comment-58</link>
		<dc:creator>griz23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 21:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You do a very good job of prepping for a &quot;cover your ass&quot; situation which is surely to come in the NCAA&#039;s ruling on the Kanter situation. All your posting does is reaffirm everyone&#039;s belief that the NCAA is anything and everything but consistant.
With your Selby/Kanter example, you fail to point out 2 huge facts. The source of Selby&#039;s money was from an agent, I mean &quot;family friend&quot;. With Kanter it was money received for education from the basketball team for which he played. 
How is the Kanter situation, receiving money for expenses and educaton, different than what happens with prep schools here in the states? This is, as you know, the only way for euro players to participate in organized basketball. 
I&#039;m guessing your response, after reading your article about the current rules in place, would be since Kanter received money from a pro team that he should be ruled ineligable. But didn&#039;t the NCAA come out about changing a troubling rule, Cam Newton &quot;not knowing&quot;, so that they could right a wrong. I&#039;m pretty sure this Kanter situation would fall under that same umbrella of troubling rule that needs amending. We all know that there will be no rush in making these changes though.
Too bad Kanter didn&#039;t sign to play for Duke because we would all be watching a great young euro talent on the court right now. That would only help with the NCAA&#039;s &quot;desire&quot; to get some exciting European players into college basketball .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You do a very good job of prepping for a &#8220;cover your ass&#8221; situation which is surely to come in the NCAA&#8217;s ruling on the Kanter situation. All your posting does is reaffirm everyone&#8217;s belief that the NCAA is anything and everything but consistant.<br />
With your Selby/Kanter example, you fail to point out 2 huge facts. The source of Selby&#8217;s money was from an agent, I mean &#8220;family friend&#8221;. With Kanter it was money received for education from the basketball team for which he played.<br />
How is the Kanter situation, receiving money for expenses and educaton, different than what happens with prep schools here in the states? This is, as you know, the only way for euro players to participate in organized basketball.<br />
I&#8217;m guessing your response, after reading your article about the current rules in place, would be since Kanter received money from a pro team that he should be ruled ineligable. But didn&#8217;t the NCAA come out about changing a troubling rule, Cam Newton &#8220;not knowing&#8221;, so that they could right a wrong. I&#8217;m pretty sure this Kanter situation would fall under that same umbrella of troubling rule that needs amending. We all know that there will be no rush in making these changes though.<br />
Too bad Kanter didn&#8217;t sign to play for Duke because we would all be watching a great young euro talent on the court right now. That would only help with the NCAA&#8217;s &#8220;desire&#8221; to get some exciting European players into college basketball .</p>
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		<title>By: free enes</title>
		<link>http://www.ncaa.org/blog/2010/12/on-consistency/#comment-57</link>
		<dc:creator>free enes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 20:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cam Newton= I didn&#039;t know my father was negotiating
Enes Kanter  = I didn&#039;t know my father was negotiating

Please explain to UK fans the difference  in the above statements. It doesn&#039;t matter if money was received. The crux of the matter is that neither kid KNEW their father was negotiating. Why should the kid be punished if they didn&#039;t KNOW? The NCAA took that stand with Newton, why can&#039;t they take the same position with Kanter?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cam Newton= I didn&#8217;t know my father was negotiating<br />
Enes Kanter  = I didn&#8217;t know my father was negotiating</p>
<p>Please explain to UK fans the difference  in the above statements. It doesn&#8217;t matter if money was received. The crux of the matter is that neither kid KNEW their father was negotiating. Why should the kid be punished if they didn&#8217;t KNOW? The NCAA took that stand with Newton, why can&#8217;t they take the same position with Kanter?</p>
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		<title>By: tm2010</title>
		<link>http://www.ncaa.org/blog/2010/12/on-consistency/#comment-56</link>
		<dc:creator>tm2010</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 20:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sorry the Sugar Bowl]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry the Sugar Bowl</p>
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